a brief dialogue on locality and concreteness:

[Edited and elided and mangled for clarity.]

JD

from a friend (i thought is/was genius)

local is effective. effective is global

[...]

i think for me, there’s a way that concrete action feels separate from “abstract” results

like constantly this question of how i’ll do big things in my life

and it seems like the only action you can take

is kind of, on “atoms”

and is somewhat ordinary

so there’s like a seeming disconnect between the small (the playing feel)

and the big (what i seem to care about?)

i kind of feel this when i’m cleaning a room

desired outcome/vision: clean room

but, you can’t just like

wave a magic wand for that to happen

you have to, like, actually move things around

one by one

and there’s kind of a disconnect there

slow is smooth, smooth is fast

Mark

local is effective. effective is global

ok yeah, kind of a pithy expansion [or even pithier compression] of the global wayfinding ethos? or do you feel like it’s something different than that and cool?

JD

feels relevant to wayfinding too

exactly!

Mark

right yeah

Mark

more tho too?

JD

like, the only playing field you have

is “local”

the only playing field you can act on

and somehow somehow connects to a more global thing

im not sure if more

maybe less??

Mark

the only playing field you can act on

no yes exactly this

Mark

i think people get tripped up trying to take “global” actions but you can’t

sort of

JD

i think people get tripped up trying to take “global” actions but you can’t

rightt, yeah!

this was kind of the original insight for me

like, there’s kind of an abstract goal

happiness

a clean room

~ belonging ~

and so there’s kind of that abstract level

and trying to act in, perhaps like wanting to flip magic switches to get everything in those good abstract states

but all you have are local (time-bound?) moves

you have to have that phone call, move that object from place a to b

and like all the medtation stuff too

Mark

yup

JD

anyway

feels therepuetically equiv to the slow is fast line

it’s like a chill pill

but in a slightly different/space dimension

Mark

a deep/broad/multifaceted insight (but can only be locally/concretedly applied, heh)

JD

righttt, lol

[...]

JD

[...] i don’t think effective is necessarily the best verb

small adds up, adding up is (eventually) big


[Ed. final note: re "ordinary actions", yes! maybe "extraordinary" actions, too, in the sense of sometimes "subtle and/or high dimensional", but they'll still in some sense be local (speaking only about the current, relevant sense of "local"), finite, iterated (very loosely speaking). (And/or/also "concrete" ("no abstractions anywhere," or "abstractions have to be concretely engaged, if engaged as such"..."))

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